the idea
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family weekends next weekend thank yeah … and it where
did you see that are here that somebody told me
today is the twenty first
AP Mr everyone we’re just gonna get started here we
are alive
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right now call this meeting of the committee of adjustment
for the city agreed a separate order the members may
welcome you and hope that you’ll find the proceedings both
informative and interesting committee will be sitting as a committee
of adjustment to your applications for minor variances and committee’s
jurisdiction to deal with minor variances is found under section
forty five of the planning act begin I will introduce
the members of the committee and attending city staff members
of the committee are Kathy Costanza
caroling Kubo and Dan Lang I am their church ran
the chair
joining us from the city interchange … of the committee
of adjustment Neil Lewis and senior planner development approval section
Glenn Ferguson secretary treasurer well now of mine the procedure
which will be followed this evening
applicants will be cold in the order of the gender
that will be shared on screen trip meeting for anyone
attending the meeting that requires comments will plaza meeting at
this point in a lot of the opportunity to request
those comments
comments for emailed up to folks on thanks for reading
hearing none location maps then submitted sketches for each application
will be shown virtually on the computer screen through meeting
I would ask everyone have their microphones needed unless they
were called upon to speak I will provide a description
of each application and then the applicants will be invited
to provide a brief summary of the application anyone in
attendance at this meeting will be provided the opportunity to
redress the committee in support or opposition to the application
I’m not be afforded a maximum of five minutes to
speak are there any purchase been a virtual audience speaking
paper or opposition to an application there to provide their
name and address verbally to the chair for the record
following any participant providing their comments and concerns to the
application the applicant will then be afforded the opportunity to
provide any final comments during the hearing committee members may
also ask any questions that they might have it is
a practice of the committee to render a decision immediately
following the hearing of each application the committee also has
jurisdiction to impose any conditions it may find necessary and
appropriate making its decision all persons having made representations to
the committee must refrain from any further discussion during the
decision making process written confirmation of decisions will be middle
to the owner or operator agent within ten days this
meeting sh anyone else who wishes to request a copy
of the decision was due celebrating
any decision made by the committee of adjustment maybe appeal
to the on terror links are below the twenty day
appeal period begins tomorrow a decision of the committee is
only final inviting provided that no appeal is received in
the period of appeal was expired any application that is
different is subject to an additional fee the maximum duration
of the department is one year from the time the
application was originally submitted to the city I would ask
if any committee members have any conflict of interest in
any of the applications for tonight’s meeting
hearing none sure charge rent a 20 so what you
thank you very much I would now call an application
he zero zero two of twenty twenty two I’m lands
known as for fifty two Wembley drive and with us
the applicants to please identify themselves
Chesley Gerry and Katie better
thank you folks we just have the secretary treasurer describe
the application
the applications for Penn seven three five eight five zero
three zero five … so six nine eight one
it’s on the … sorry it’s not three sixty one
on plane M. ninety five it’s part lots six concession
three in the township of McCain or fifty two lovely
drive inside pres owned R. two dash two it’s for
relief from part four section four point two table four
point one in part six section six point three table
six point three the city’s zoning bylaws amended to facilitate
the conversion of the existing one and a half story
single detached dwelling to two storeys providing firstly an interior
side yard setback of zero point nine one meters or
one point eight meters is required and secondly eastern courage
one point two nine meters into the required yard were
you assuming brooch point six meters into the required yard
but not closer and point six meters to the lot
line
… misperception the car did you want to go ahead
and just provide a brief summary of what you’re looking
to hear
we’re just looking to make a story and a half
to two story
single family dwelling that’s it
okay
restrict
at this time
this time I’ll ask if there’s anyone in the audience
who would like to address the committee either in support
or in opposition of this hearing is they can also
please speak up
hearing none I’ll just do one more color in case
anyone’s microphones on mute and I’ll also ask the secretary
treasurer if the city had received any correspondence regarding this
application no the city did not receive any emails or
letters concern in relation to this application
M. at this time … Mr leader did you have
any final comments you want to provide to committee
I don’t think so
okay
… I would now declare the public portion of this
hearing closed and I would ask committee members if they
had any questions of the applicant or staff with the
complete speak up
hearing and seeing none I would ask if staff at
any further comments
nothing further from staff at this time
and may we have the resolution read please
at the application by Katie percent interest in the gallery
the owners of ten seven three five eight five zero
three zero five Arsal six nine eight one slot three
sixty one of plan M. dash ninety five part about
six concession three in the township of McCain or fifty
two when they drive in separate early from park for
section four point two table four point one in part
six section six point three double six point three the
city’s zoning bylaws amended to facilitate the conversion of the
existing one how story single detached dwelling to two storeys
providing firstly and interior side yard setback of point nine
one meters for one point eight meters is required and
secondly eastern bridge one point two might nine meters into
the required yard or eve’s main crouch point six meters
into the record heard but not close to them but
six minutes of the lot line be granted
at this time I would ask committee members to vote
on the matter if you please indicate your concurrence with
the resolution to grant the minor variance with a yes
or a no
committee member line
yes committee member Costanza
yes committee member couple yes and Committee church are trained
yes
Kerry
so the minor variances been approved
you thank you guys
thank you have a good evening you too bye
no call the next application is application A. zero zero
zero three of twenty twenty two on lands known as
six seven two four … my apologies zero metal Lake
Road said brie and I would ask the …
applicant or agent to please identify themselves
Brian Dorland acting as agent for the applicant
thank you Mr Darling what is that the sector treasury
described the application
the application is for can seven three four seven five
zero nine three or so one one six eight four
it’s part broken like eight in conception six as an
EP six eighty to the township of rotor zero metal
Lake Road zoned rural for relief from part nine section
nine point three two one nine point three of the
city’s zoning bylaws amended to approve the last be severed
subject to consent application B. zero zero zero seven or
its last twenty twenty two providing a minimum lot frontage
of twenty eight point six meters or ninety meters is
required
thank you Mr Darling did you wanna go ahead and
provide a brief summary of the application please
thank you Mr chair … my reference application has been
submitted concurrently with an application for consent to allow the
creation of three new rural lots on metal Lake Road
and the city’s self that
… this variance particulars required fills facilitate the creation of
one of the lots are subject to the consent applications
… one rural water front lot that does not meet
the road frontage requirements for new lots within the R.
use zone … however it greatly exceeds the water frontage
and area requirements um so the proposed variance would provide
for minimum lot frontage meeting in this case road frontage
of twenty point six meters where ninety meters is required
in the zoning bylaw … as noted in the development
approvals … staff comments the variances
technical in nature and … maintains the both both the
intent of the official plan and the zoning bylaw …
nothing further but I would be happy address any questions
or concerns from staff or members of the committee
okay thank you very much at this time I would
ask if there’s anyone in the audience who would like
to address the committee in support or in opposition of
this hearing if they can please speak up
hearing none I will be one more color in case
anyone’s microphone was on and I will also ask the
sector trigger if the city had received correspondence regarding the
application
yes Mr sure the city received an email of concern
from asleep hi Gary and David rental of five fifty
five tiny street … they own and abutting Purcell if
they have concerns regarding this application the proposal and how
it will affect their access to their courage mentioned but
the subject lands as a portion of their direct result
thank you
having not heard anyone else that will pass it back
to Mr Darling did you have any final comments …
I’m a matter I I read the concerns from the
neighboring property owner … and I read her comments that
… she had a somewhat of a hand her her
father had or grandfather had somewhat of a handshake agreement
with the original owner of the property back in the
nineteen sixties that that they have the legal right to
cross the property yet unfortunately these sorts of agreements don’t
extend and with title to the subsequent owners of the
property right now there are there are no registered he’s
means … restaurant title for the subject lands … for
any rights of where access but … that is not
the intent of of … my client to block anybody’s
access whatsoever in fact he … he’s willing to you
know start a dialogue with that with the land owners
to to potentially negotiate for future legalize rights of way
over these … existing access roads should they
come forward with these requests
okay was there anything else
that was that everything was zero that’s it yeah thank
you
I would declare the public portion of the hearing closed
and I’ll ask my fellow committee members if they have
any questions of the agent or steps
thank you
committee member Costanza go ahead okay just a little bit
of a red flag with this road access so basically
these people will be land locked now because of this
and they will not have access
during
to the agent or staff
adult agent
go ahead etcetera the there are while they were technically
already one properties technically already landlocked so there’s an existing
driveway that encroaches on to the subject lands on to
propose lot for which is I guess subject this variance
… but it’s always been there so it it doesn’t
change anything from the variance would not change anything from
what right away if you can zoom in on the
on the screen a bit there it kind of shows
the existing access to two pins … zero five four
seven which is the the landowner in question … say
it’s already there and in the variance doesn’t change anything
or change any … rights of way or any existing
access issues
sh thole my question then is technically be out in
the could cut off
used to this thanks
technically I could yeah I guess you could say it
up can I can I speak is the applicant please
yes yes so it’s my intention to … … to
grant the … … these this party a Leslie Hagee
… and and different … …
for the sum of one dollar and for … of
truth is long as the … covered legal fees and
the … … the required … … survey … to
to get legal access we should never had and have
security in the future of access that’s that’s my intention
okay I just want because of the way it’s happening
it goes back to the many properties similar to this
and when this happens I get a little bit
you know
except for these people you know new persons on the
block and now all of a sudden we don’t have
the rates and we’ve done this for sixty years and
now we’re getting thrown out so I think if the
house some reassurance to this and we have it in
our minutes about it
I know I would feel better for those people
you know does appear that she was on the other
foot you know how would you feel about doing that
you know so it’s just being fair in my opinion
anyway absolutely and and you know even if they don’t
want to bear the costs of the legal costs which
would be a few thousand dollars … I have no
intention of stopping them using the … the the the
the right away you know it’s it’s better it’s better
for them if they do have security in the future
okay okay thank you
thank you committee member Costanza any other committee members have
any questions or comments
just for myself if I can just ask staff through
a bit of clarification …
I guess
I’m just curious how those two pins came to exist
without the roadway access Sir
sorry this would be directed to Mr Ferguson it’s just
common that’s the way the rules were back then …
and that’s how it’s just a boulder
I’m just trying to find out how we find ourselves
in a situation with the
yeah no items it’s it’s a good question this juror
… what I would say is we have hundreds if
not thousands of these properties … in within municipal boundaries
and then this for all sorts of different reasons …
old lots record … I would say it’s not unusual
to see these along the shore line and that that’s
the reason why these lots along the shoreline are zoned
rural shore line … and they’re only zoned to permit
seasonal dwellings … but in terms of how those lots
came to be I would suspect or just older lots
of record …
I don’t know if Mr Doyle is on any background
on this but I tell you may just agree with
me that they were all lots record but if you
had any more information you might be able to clarify
we haven’t obviously dug title searches or anything like that
it’s … as it relates to those are existing lots
record
okay thank you ed Mr drawings on add something
yeah I can I can a little bit of information
so I actually up our parcel was originally patented in
February of 1947 as
there’s a long description … but the the property in
question was kind of after the fact in nineteen sixty
five as a summer resort location … D. E. sixty
four there is no there is no indication in the
pad document … the regional grant from the crowns of
any road access whatsoever so it in it’s hard to
say what what what was there in nineteen sixty five
…
but it would appear as as though it was handed
without road access as
there may have been historically role there but it’s not
reflected on the survey plan attached the patterns which I
can
bye to whoever would like a copy
or the the card documents for our parts are are
partial
okay thank you and I guess that just to follow
question for Mr Darling or the applicant but have you
had a chance to review the comments from the nickel
district conservation authority
I’ll answer that yes yes we have been in contact
with the with the conservation authority quite a bit past
few days and now we’re
we’ve addressed I think we’ve 5
we’ve addressed a few of their concerns and I’ve provided
them with some additional information that they were requesting in
their comments for this application our other comments on this
application so I’m hoping that we can … … you
know work with them and get this get this all
game make everybody happy so that these all these lots
we proved
okay thank you
and I am just to reviewing the updated comments here
where they are no longer requesting a deferral if I
can just … Mr Ferguson can you just confirm that
they are no longer requesting a deferral and that’s their
position now
that’s correct researcher they’re no longer requesting to for all
the updated comments indicate … just to get the wording
here that they do not oppose the application so they’re
no longer requesting a deferral in their comments are largely
cautionary now I would say in nature
perfect thank you very much and that’s all the questions
I have a just quickly any other committee members think
of anything else or have any comments questions
and seeing any I will pass it to staff for
any further comments
nothing further from staff at this time
I would now ask if we can have the resolution
read please
the application by one nine three zero zero three seven
on terrier limited the owner of Penn seven three four
seven five zero eight nine three Purcell one one six
eight four one eight concession six as in EP six
eight eight two Tasha Broderick’s zero metal Lake Road in
separate relief from her nine section nine point three two
one nine point three of the city’s zoning bylaws amended
to approve the lands to be separate subject of consent
application D. zero zero zero seven or eight slash twenty
twenty two providing minimum lot frontage of twenty eight point
six meters were ninety meters is required misprinted
at this time I would ask that committee members vote
on the matter if you would please indicate your concurrence
with the resolution to grant the minor variance with a
yes or no
committee member dumont
yes
committee member line yes
committee member Costanzo
yes committee member couple yes committee chair chartering yes
right
these are the minor variance has been approved
thank you Mr Darling
thank you
welcome application this application A. zero zero zero five of
twenty twenty two on lands known as 1-75 gene street
in Sudbury and I would ask the applicant or agent
to please themselves
hi my name is Nikos granite the owner
eight three thank you were going to have the secretary
treasurer described the application
the application is for pain zero two one two nine
zero zero four three or so four eight five zero
it’s lot seven subdivision when M. dash ninety three part
lots six concession for the township of macam it’s one
seventy five James Street in separate zoned R. two dash
three early from part five section five point five point
five of the city’s zoning bylaws amended to facilitate the
construction of a secondary units writing one parking space for
two parking spaces are required
thank you
I’m I would now ask the applicant to please refer
provide a brief summary of the application
so this is the first ever investment property and purchased
and day was designated as R. two one the unit
headed unfinished basement and I was hoping to be able
to finish that and … register that as a secondary
units when I submitted the building permit application
they told me that I I would need to request
a minor variance because legally there currently isn’t … sufficient
space based on current … guidelines
okay
at this time I would ask if there’s anyone in
the audience who would like to address the committee in
support and opposition of this hearing is the complete speak
up
hearing none I’ll just do one more color in case
anyone’s microphone was on mute now also asked secretary treasurer
if the city had received any correspondence regarding the application
sorry just realised I was on mute I’m the city
received on telephone calls in relation to this application but
I didn’t actually end up receiving any correspondence sport

at this time I would pass it back to Mr
here you did you have any final comments you wanted
to provide
I know
I now declare the public portion of the hearing close
and I would ask committee members if they had any
questions or comments of the applicant or city staff
committee member do not go ahead
through you Mr chair I’ll direct this question to …
the applicant are you an opportunity to read T. the
comments from development approval section … prior to the meeting
this evening
yes I did
so I didn’t wreck see the recommendations to be not
approved but I was actually told by our neighbors that
to the previous owner was able to that part to
cars and that that … on on the property itself
… so you know this being an older home that
was purchased I was hoping that you guys can make
an exception to allow at least registered a secondary you
know without the secondary parking spot
okay thank you for that response … so for based
on routine stops comments at least from myself

I understand secondary units and and I’m all for secondary
units I fully support that
in your case it understands that like and I understand
that you’ve had a conversation with maybe the neighbours in
the past and it was like it was an oak
yeah okay thing to do I think what has happened
in this situation is because you’ve … undertaken the conversion
of the basement into the secondary unit is a process
in place but the city to register those as part
of that process to make it legal are part of
that process that was undertaken it was then realized that
not only you know do you need to focus on
the secondary unit itself or you need to focus on
parking all the other exterior elements that are part of
a zoning bylaw and in this case from what I’m
understanding … I’m looking at it saying that you’re based
on staff’s comments this doesn’t work in your favor unfortunately
it’s a unique circumstance but that that the the lot
is significantly undersized which doesn’t work in your favor and
others as well as a result of it being undersized
in terms of lot area as well as lot frontage
… backed us recommendation can’t support it now with that
being said I am aware of the new changes that’s
the C. yourself realize need in terms of parking requirements
making it more accommodative for people I want to pursue
secondary units it’s actually in the favor of the property
owner however with that said it still doesn’t work in
your situation based on staff comments because
the new legislation or the new regulation that’s in place
it says that there are no parking spaces can be
within the required front yard to the lesser of a
maximum of fifty percent of the west of the minimum
lot frontage which is twelve metres or or the maximum
driveway that would be entirely eliminate a war so I
skipped a sentence there …
for the maximum driveway with established by the bylaw which
is six meters all saying fifty percent of you know
the the lot frontages twelve metres or the driveway with
… six point whichever is lesser but if I go
back and look at your property the property is …
you know significantly undersized so so for those reasons …
I’m assuming a lot I know for a fact isn’t
staff’s recommendation they’re saying they can’t support it I also
conducted a site visit and I know there’s no mention
to it but … I was just maybe a question
to you is to the applicant is in terms of
access in your drive way do you encroach on the
neighbor’s property do you know if you encroach on the
neighbor’s property to get to your property to park
so from what I was told by our neighbor …
the that’s a decent sharing the same driveway is that
the previous owner park the car right in the front
so … when they parts on an angle they were
able to part cut two cars without blocking each other
so there’s I guess the question to you Sir is
there’s no confirmation
right now all it’s all here say that there’s been
you know you could technically be trespassing onto your neighbor’s
property to gain access to your property there’s no confirmation
through a survey determining what the extent of that access
is to your property it would that be a fair
assessment … Hon I don’t believe so because when we
are out on the units when you can drive directly
into the drive way onto our property without acts it
stepping over to the other owners of the other lot
okay nine nine and I respect that so I just
I’m just looking from months you know site visit just
kind of questioning like how you access the site which
is that it’s not part of this topic this evening
all but it’s just a concern of mine that I
I I did see in terms of how do you
access it legally to that property but the the importance
here are
that you know every limit you shows the car …
also located like reading the front yard and barely fits
the one one vehicle let alone how can from a
safety like I’m looking at a safety perspective how can
one put another vehicle without … you know in obstructing
… line of site safety people walking by so cities
big concern with me too that’s what we kind of
have these … that’s why we can’t have these like
you know these regulations in place and those regulations have
to be kind of considered before undertaking all secondary unit
it’s not just my opinion on the matter solely because
I
and I’ll just leave it as that … I do
understand where you’re coming from unfortunately … I have to
at least for myself … support
staff’s recommendations you need
it’s so just to add … right next to the
driveway … at the edge of the launch there used
to be a … lexical post I guess
not after we purchased a unit I don’t know what
where when or why it was removed but that was
removed so on the top left corner here … just
next to the driveway there used to be a a
large poster that has been removed to … which actually
should … enable better safety
and more space to actually be able to drive right
in front of the lot
okay thank you for that Mister … Corey … member
do not to join in at anything heard was that
everything
through you Mr chair … but that’s good for us
for for myself now
thank you any other committee members wish to speak on
the matter I do
I can America stand the go ahead I’m the only
thing I’m thinking and I don’t know if this will
work or not but could there not be parking put
in the back where this that stand
that’s what I would like as well actually because the
shed was riding as well and … that has been
removed … and I talk to the neighbor and he
would be okay if you guys would allow us to
… allow a secondary parking … where the shed currently
use

building permit … when we submit the application they didn’t
tell us that there isn’t enough space I I don’t
know what the requirements are but … there’s you know
when I’m physically on site looking at it there’s lots
of space there to be able to park a car
very safely
so I thought process was Lakeview drive through the driveway
on the side of the house and you have two
parking spots in the back
so that they can back up and dried out
you see what I’m saying
E. yes I
because when I
first visited this particular lot
if I were to park a car right in front
of the includes Porsche … porch that would enable the
secondary vehicle to drive right along the driveway right to
the end so we can have one spot on in
the front and one started spot in the back
like there when I’m there on sites there’s enough space
for that
can we chat quickly … Mr Hewitt I think what
America stands are suggesting is not having any vehicles after
party in the front yard and would there be room
for both vehicles to share in the same spot in
the in the backyard yes said removed in the size
of that backyard I believe that’s committee member Costanza’s question
yes I I believe so be we should be able
to make modifications to the backyards so that two vehicles
can fit their
so then maybe what we should be looking at is
different S. so this can be revisited
and perhaps I can ask Mr Ferguson to chime in
that I do believe that development approvals in planning tried
a few different parking scenarios … Mr Ferguson you have
any comments or can you touch on this
absolutely I thank you for the opportunity Mr chair
between planning staff and building services staff … a number
of different scenarios were explored … and in each case
I would say … what we have here is a
is a small urban residential lot in an older part
of the city … presents a number of challenges for
lead to parking I’m in particular D. driveway providing access
to the rear yard …
the zoning bylaw requires for a one way driveway a
minimum with service … three meters which is
ten feet it’s nine point eight four feet I believe
it is … whereas we’re dealing with a job driving
along side of the house if you will that is
six point seven meters or six point seven feet and
six point five feet wide that is plain simple not
wide enough to pass a vehicle … along without encroaching
or trespassing or traversing home
Hey bring land to the west um so the rear
yard parking area
we would not work unless
disposer could be scenarios where a lot issue could be
explored or easements could be explored but … there would
be some difficulties with that because of course the house
next door is right on the lot line if not
coaching across the lot line …
it’s certainly not a preferred situation … from planning and
buildings perspective the other thing … the planning and building
looked at is … scenarios where you could maybe angled
parking into the front yard and again it’s the difficulty
here really is the distance between the house and the
lot line
is actually less than the depth of a parking spot
so the depth of a parking spot is typically twenty
feet councillors fourteen point nine feet there to work with
…
and then if you were to turn two spots on
its side meaning
two spots perhaps like this in the front yard again
you have nine forty three feet here
tweet the porch and the front lot line
and the minimum with a parking spot is about ten
feet ten feet

so
you could barely fit one parking spot
sorry if you’re to turn it you likely don’t have
the twenty feet is what I was referred to you
would need we need at least twenty feet
on the porch
to their to have to sponsor each ten feet in
with
all of that to say all of those options were
looked at we also I also in particular looked at
this from the perspective of the recent residential parking standards
updates … and
unfortunately it’s just it is one of those situations where
in this setting
yeah
the really just has no opportunity to to locate Tom
the parking that would be required on the lands
okay thank you for that Mr Ferguson I’ll just pass
it back to committee member to stand so if you
want to add anything to that
okay so then basically what he’s asking for is one
parking space instead it to with that are required
so he does have one parking space there
mmhm
so then
if there isn’t going to be a second parking space
that would be okay
if we would allow that
thank you doesn’t have to have the two spaces it
is on a bus run it is walking distance to
a lot of stuff
it’s is that it
yes very committee member Cassandra was that … the question
or just … it’s a statement question okay okay we
can we’d like this he’s only asking for the one
parking spot
I think there’s gonna be a little bit of work
we can do with this it’s important to be able
to have more affordable housing for people and you know
people’s gonna step into this to do this then maybe
there’s a way we can work with it
I thank you guys Mr Ferguson commuters clarifies the current
situation at the end of the … nonconforming
yes the one spot at
… where the one parking spot would technically be right
now sure …
okay so I would say I I can answer that
Mr as well as I can speak to the point
they’re made by a committee member to stand the so
… even if we were to try and situate one
parking spot on this property … again
you don’t have the twenty feet of depth to have
a parking spot oriented
this way
and then of course you don’t have the with the
other way … angled parking the vehicle parking space was
also explored … we’ve also already mentioned passing a vehicle
through the back not being an option so in terms
of this current status what we would have here would
be a
single detached dwellings
that may not even have one parking spot the complies
with the city’s zoning bylaw today
so in terms of what’s legal non complying here either
we have an undersized parking spot one parking spot on
the lands to begin with today
or an argument to be made that there are no
parking spots here today and that’s what is legal non
complying
and then that issue gets magnified by now adding a
second unit so now we don’t have one parking spot
or we have we do have one that’s undersized or
we have no parking spots and now we’re looking to
add a unit and there’s no where to place it
in a parking spot for that unit so
it is a very difficult very tight site
and
as part of our
review of all of these applications one of the things
that I always look at is is alternatives … if
there was a way to somehow fit a parking spot
on to the property
by the staff would have
certainly reached out
okay thank you for that the … committee member do
not SIUE and go up did you want to add
no I’m just gonna comment through you Mr chair I
was just gonna say like … Mr Ferguson touched on
it like I’d be of the view that I’m sure
staff going into this process
exhausted
every scenario possible
with the owner
to to look at those alternatives
that’s how I feel about a diet … because I’m
learning
are these meetings and passed applications that those are the
discussions we are happiness members went staff in Seoul I’m
going to continue to all these from my perspective on
use those past discussions and and say that give give
credit staff in that they are
I because we only we don’t get to see what’s
going on behind the scenes but based on those process
questions they are exhausting those was alternatives and unfortunately in
this circumstance all people have to realize that on and
I said I see the same all the time of
that
you know we are here to support affordable housing
in their second year units you can do to secondary
units actually on the property but you gotta make sure
you have adequate parking it’s in the in the right
place there’s certain provisions that have to be met and
people are forgetting that they gotta meet goals there’s also
focused on I didn’t second unit adding thirty unit without
even giving any any contacts to parking snow removal garbage
access safety all those things are being left out until
they get to this point where unfortunately in this circumstance
we can help the individual or in my opinion we
can help the individual anymore the staff is has done
not exhaustively in this particular situation and you know what
unfortunate but it is what it is and those are
my final comments and people just have to continue to
you know educate got educate people share information and share
that information with people so they’re not in situations like
this
can I just add something
I’m gonna go ahead Mr okay … so the share
drive way should be more than six point five feet
time and I did talk to the neighbors with …
the share drive way and she’s telling us that as
long as he can move his … snowblower from his
garage to the front … he would be okay with
us having a secondary parking spot where the shed is
so we we did talk to the … previous owner
both that and for this particular house that we purchased
the same owner was there for sixty years or something
like that and they were they they were parking well
one or two vehicles on our at the front so
I I don’t I can’t really understand how it wouldn’t
be legal non conforming for one parking spot right now
fandom further to that at this particular site … you
know … the other lady mentioned as well that there’s
a lot of things were within walking distance … bus
… as well as food there’s actually a school …
nearby that is actually within walking distance so … my
request here is hopefully for two parking spots but up
you know at bare minimum it would at least make
sense to allow a secondary units with no parking because
I mean people I’m from Toronto and … there are
… my wife doesn’t even have a … car or
driver’s Mason she just means so in Asia we we
walk so there’s a lot of places that you can
get to even without a car okay thank you …
Mr great uh communities tended you wanna have your
yeah I’m just gonna go because it is an older
established subdivision … there is a lot of issues with
a lot of these properties like this … some that
never make it legal we have a gentleman that wants
to make everything legal here and there’s hiccups that Tara
I I just wish there was something we could accommodate
to make it work for him
… put in that unit in for somebody else that
could have
somewhere to live that’s affordable for these people
okay at
airliner a commuter relaying do you have anything else to
add
through you Mr cherry just more of a comment try
to … dissident the S. site
and … for my view I think there’s other complications
as well like even the … the curb to get
into the … the driveway I’m not
I salute you know understanding there’s a bit of …
Jenna mock gentleman’s agreement right now that
perhaps you could it could park on the neighbours
a lot but who’s to say that that
dot host doesn’t get sold in the next … neighbor
coming in … you know doesn’t abide by that agreement
so to speak great side I think you know to
me there’s a lot of complications here I understand you
know the the idea via the secondary unit and being
here I didn’t everything but I think just with all
the complications and and kind of all the information here
and and working on trying to find a solution I
think unfortunately there isn’t one … so I would be
supporting staff’s recommendation as well
moved
thank you committee revealing a committee member could tell anything
to add I have an aunt nothing I’m just listening
to … I feel the same way HM
the parking there it’s
I don’t know
you barely have room for one and now you’re trying
to put in the second one
and it says that like this on your for our
parking
so even park on the side of the road you
still and then there’s a Colleen issue and the same
thing for their neighbors move in there and they don’t
want that whole scenario changes correct
right
yeah I I for my unfortunate

very good Caroline I could drive to jobs no that’s
good okay and for myself I would echo the comments
from my fellow committee members and just as we can
remember do not brought up we’re looking at snow removal
garbage safety … and sometimes you know
these ideas to have the secondary
welding is just not feasible on on the property or
the lot where this is happening and we run into
this before
small lots we’re parking is just not not working
again I I would just going to echo my fellow
committee members and staff comments here … and as it
is I would
I can’t support the application it’s way … committee members
who might did you want to add something here
yeah I just thought through you Mr charges the final
comment to the applicant you know listening to everybody’s views
on this as well as yours are I don’t I
don’t believe that variance is the solution here
what is the variance there is it’s it’s definitely not
the solution here and again we don’t do planning on
the flight but I I would highly recommend that baby
you seek professional advice in this kind of field so
you can have an understanding of the by laws I
do understand that you came from Toronto I do respect
that in somebody’s different in terms of bylaws every minister
probably has different bylaws and we have to hear to
each unique bylaw that is in place for the municipality
so I just my recommendations we can help and give
you any advice is to seek up to seek professional
expert in this field and maybe when you do you
engage in those conversations you might notice that the variance
unfortunately is not the solution but there’s other tools and
mechanisms in place to potentially up to potentially help you
gain access to the rear yard that’s definitely not a
variance soul that’s supposed to those discussions have to happen
and not only do those discussions have to happen but
it’s all legal to not only as a planning but
it’s legal legal in terms of ownership going over someone’s
property having the right you know approvals in place so
you can gain access because the old
my goal is to gain legal access to the rear
yard so you can pop that’s the goal how do
you achieve that goal that’s in your hands
if it’s doable
thank you committee member do not
and I’m
was quickly go back to committee if anyone had anything
else to add before
we go to a decision
hearing and seeing that I will pass to stop if
there’s any further comments from style
nothing further from staff at this time
I would ask if we can have the resolution right
now
the application by Nicolas here the owner opinion zero two
one two nine zero zero five three our support five
zero it’s not seven one M. dash ninety three for
six concession for internship you can one seventy five Jane
street in separate early from part five section five required
to the point of the city zoning bylaws amended to
facilitate the construction of a secondary unit provided one parking
space for two parking spaces the card be denied
at this time out as committee members to vote on
the matter if you’d please indicate your concurrence with the
resolution to deny the minor variance with a yes or
no
committee member dumont yes
committee member line yes
committee member Sander
yes
committee member triple yes and can I get your turn
yes that’s correct
through the variance has been denied
and I’ll move on to the next application the application
A. zero zero zero seven of twenty twenty two on
lands known as one twenty two eighty fourth Avenue and
I would ask the applicant or agent to please identify
themselves
I am to McDonald’s from the team’s quality homes
thank you Mr McDonald is that the secretary treasurer described
the applications
the application is for Penn seven three five seven seven
zero four four six parcel one five eight seven three
Sportler bleiben concession trees and L. T. eight nine six
zero four in the township of middle one twenty two
eighty four governments have rezoned R. one dash five Charlie
from her for section four point three import six section
six point three tables explain to the city’s zoning bylaws
amended in order to facilitate the construction of a single
detached dwelling provided personally no frontage onto a single road
where is no person Shellbrook any building on any lot
that does not have printer drums and wrote and secondly
a minimum lot frontage of zero point zero meters and
no front lot line up the street line where his
team meters is required and we’re no lot should pop
up front lot line less than ten point five meters
in length measured up the street line
thank you I would now ask the applicant to go
ahead and provide a brief summary of the applications for
dollar go ahead
I’m pretty self explanatory so I bought a piece of
parcel … which doesn’t have any fraud frontage road frontage
but it has a right away which is all registered
Bach I think in the nineteen fifties … so there’s
too many parents that I need for this is a
I don’t I’m not on a bus the roadway and
there’s no frontage on the road with
so the other day just need a minor variance argue
at the building permit for us
thank you
I would now ask if there’s anyone and … joining
us this evening who would like to address committee in
support or in opposition of the complete speaker
I’ll also ask the secretary treasurer if … city had
received any correspondence regarding this application
hi Mr sure know the city did not receive any
emails or letters of concern in relation to this application
our
… Mr don’t do you any final comments who wish
to provide
no nobody has questioned so pretty good on my end
I now declare the public portion of the hearing closed
and I asked the … my fellow committee members if
they have any questions of the applicant or city staff
with the complete speaker
remember do not
through you Mr charges the other questions directed to well
Mr Ferguson also the application … as per the presentation
addressed … right away that was …
… registered on title back in the fifties can you
confirm that staff has that many information as part of
the recommendation this evening
yes Sir through you Mr to the committee member yes
there is an established easement it has been confirmed
thank you very much
any other questions or comments from committee
sure through are you Mister chair to staff
all right just stand by you I wasn’t able to
get in the driveway to … to view the whole
property but my understanding is there is already a host
to the east of this property
that access is by that easement as well
that is correct sorry through you Mr to the committee
member that’s correct
okay just wanted to I can firm not thank you
thank
any other comments or questions from committee members
hearing and seeing none the staff have any further comments
that
nothing further from staff at this time
I would now ask if we can have the recommendation
read please
at the application by TM quality homes ink the owner
can seven three five seven seven dash zero or six
parcel one five eight seven three model … concessions reasonable
T. eight and six or or in the township Neilan
one twenty two eighty fourth Avenue separate from the from
our for section four point three import six section six
point three tables it’s plenty of cities only bylaws amended
in order to facilitate the construction of a single detached
dwelling providing firstly no frontage on to resume growth were
is no person shall work any building on a lot
that does not have frontage on the same road and
secondly a minimum lot frontage of zero meters and no
front lot line up the street line work fifteen meters
is required and were no lot should have front lot
line less than ten point five meters of length version
of the street line the granted
this time I would ask committee members to vote on
the matter if you’d please indicate your concurrence with the
recommendation to grant the minor variance with the yes or
NO
committee member Dimond yes committee member line yes
committee member extensive
yes committee member quibble yes committee chair churchyard yes
the minor variances been approved thank you Mr Donald
thank you
I will now pass it back to the sixty transferred
to Germany
I have the minutes meeting held Wednesday January twelfth if
I can have earned its second relation to the resolution
I can move it
I’ll second
the minutes of the meeting held Wednesday January twelfth twenty
twenty to be adopted us to computer and circulated a
minimum order want
yes
the line yes
in order to stand so yes
remember couple yes committee member search committee chair charter and
yes
and I have a resolution to during the meeting if
I can ever mover in a second
it also
at the meeting be adjourned at 559
committee member the month
yes
committee member line yes
committee member Costanzo
yes many member purple yes committee chair charter and yes
thank you